Billie Piper on toxic masculinity, raising teens, and playing complex characters: ‘I’ve been a woman on the edge – I’m not afraid of it!’

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“I’ve had truthful galore coffees, I consciousness hysterical,” says Billie Piper. The 42-year-old histrion has acceptable up campy successful a caff successful Camden, London, portion she finishes the last draught of a romcom she’s moving connected – a follow-up to her 2021 directorial debut, Rare Beasts. Piper changeable to fame astatine 15 arsenic a popular star, past transitioned into acting, becoming a household sanction arsenic Rose Tyler successful Doctor Who. Since then, she’s carved retired a niche playing women astatine breaking constituent (like Suzie Pickles successful I Hate Suzie). Now, she’s acceptable to bash little acting and much enactment down the scenes. Not that her on-screen vocation is slowing down – she conscionable bagged her 5th Bafta nomination, for playing writer Sam McAlister successful Scoop, the dramatisation of the BBC Newsnight interrogation with Prince Andrew astir Jeffrey Epstein. She volition besides look successful the Netflix mega-hit and Addams household spin-off, Wednesday, aboriginal this year.

You’re an adept astatine playing a pistillate connected the edge. What’s the secret?
I’ve seen it a lot, I’ve been it, and I’m not acrophobic of it! You tin beryllium a pistillate connected the edge, but besides beryllium a soulful woman, a playful pistillate and a comic woman. You tin beryllium each those things astatine once.

What drew you to Scoop?
That interrogation was 1 of the astir shocking things I’ve seen connected TV. I’d followed the Epstein communicative precise closely, with immense rage – the size, the scale, the privilege and the bullshitting, it’s conscionable excessively disturbing. So determination was a spot of an axe to grind. Then, connected apical of that, I met Sam, and she’s a genuinely formidable woman.

You’ve said 1 of your aims with your enactment is to ‘lift the lid connected what it means and what it costs to beryllium female’. Do you deliberation that outgo is expanding oregon decreasing?
Increasing. It feels like, successful galore ways, we’re going backwards. I wonderment if determination is simply a greater hostility from guys towards girls. There’s surely a satellite disposable to men that violently rejects feminism oregon emancipation. It’s truly frightening. Now that I’ve had a daughter, I tin spot unit against women much clearly. It’s similar I couldn’t spot it for myself, which is alarming, and I’ve had to bash enactment reframing a batch that I’d normalised successful my life. It’s a good balance: however bash we support women harmless portion besides nurturing boys, who are facing issues, too?

How bash you woody with conversations astir toxic masculinity with your kids?
Look, I haven’t got this down pat, but with my girl and sons with immoderate they’re facing, it’s astir listening, holding your nervus erstwhile they accidental thing that feels not rather right, and knowing they person to marque mistakes. I can’t judge the pressures connected them to person these governmental views each the time. There’s specified anticipation for young radical to get it close immediately. And if they don’t, they’re written off. When I was their age, I was just, I don’t know, smoking cigarettes!

Billie Piper arsenic  Newsnight shaper    Sam McAlister, successful  Scoop.
Billie Piper arsenic Newsnight shaper Sam McAlister, successful Scoop. Photograph: Peter Mountain/Netflix/PA

Secret Diary of a Call Girl – the bid you and Lucy Prebble made astir sex idiosyncratic Belle de Jourwent up connected Netflix last year, 17 years aft it first aired, and changeable into the UK apical three astir viewed. How bash you consciousness astir radical watching it again?
I don’t know! It got truthful critically panned erstwhile it came out, and I was not that heavy into my acting career, truthful I conscionable thought: “Well, everyone says it’s shit, truthful possibly it is.” I deliberation the fallout critically, adjacent though it was a numbers success, made maine consciousness precise vulnerable. It being connected TV again can’t beryllium casual for my kids, due to the fact that there’s a batch of sex. It makes maine consciousness a spot anxious. Now I person a family, it’s not arsenic elemental as: “Oh, you conscionable bash a part, and everyone has to judge it’s a spot of acting.” Rightly oregon wrongly, it has repercussions.

Do you 2 person plans for an I Hate Suzie play 3?

I would emotion to bash it again, but I deliberation that I deliberation she needs a spot much communicative successful her. So I deliberation the communicative would beryllium served amended from a spot much age, possibly menopause, a fewer much years disconnected camera.

Does the thought of being a relation exemplary beryllium heavy with you?

I don’t similar it. I’ve ne'er liked it. It feels excessively frightening, and it doesn’t let a batch of country for error. And I truly struggled with that erstwhile I was a teenager, arsenic a singer, I conscionable hated that feeling. That’s been a spot of a hangover for me.

You precocious played Cassandra successful Kaos. Fans were gutted erstwhile it was cancelled aft play one. Do you deliberation TV has go much ruthless successful presumption of what gets cut? Do you consciousness the unit of that arsenic an actor?
I don’t consciousness arsenic if I’m alert of that pressure, but determination indispensable beryllium thing speaking to me, due to the fact that I don’t conscionable privation to beryllium an histrion for prosecute immoderate more. It feels excessively frightening. But then, you know, what americium I going into? Writing things that besides whitethorn ne'er get made? People privation to marque monolithic things for loads of money, and past the anticipation is that those numbers bespeak that spend, and if they don’t past they’re gone. It’s truly sad.

Tell america astir the romcom you are moving on.
If I ticker 1990s romcoms now, I find them hard to understand. They conscionable beryllium differently. Even though I emotion those movies, it’s a clip that felt truthful radically antithetic from the satellite we unrecorded successful now. So I’m trying to bash thing that feels authentic to now, but inactive feels dreamy and hopeful.

How bash you header with writer’s block?
I panic! Luckily, I’m truthful greenish adjacent the atrocious days look achievable.

What person you watched this year?
I’m specified a snob astir films, but with TV I’m wholly different. I truly emotion world TV, Kardashians and the mindless stuff. I lone conscionable started watching Colin from Accounts.

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