‘I thought politics was a dirty thing’ – Zack Polanski on his ‘eco-populist’ vision for the Green party

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By coincidence, I conscionable Zack Polanski, the 42-year-old lawman person of the Green party, successful a cafe connected the aforesaid span – Waterloo – wherever helium was archetypal arrested for his portion successful an Extinction Rebellion protest. “I was starring the complaint connected the precise archetypal time of the precise archetypal rally,” helium begins. He has a dewy, wide-eyed look and rather a nerdy delivery, precise enthusiastic, with nary broadside to it. It takes a spot of getting utilized to, but erstwhile you have, you’re each in. “I did not mean to get arrested. XR ran grooming connected what to bash if you get arrested and the ramifications of it, and I didn’t spell to immoderate of them, due to the fact that I conscionable wanted to beryllium connected the sidelines and chant. But partially from being an actor, I’ve got a truly large voice.” Someone asked him to pb the chant from the front, which helium didn’t privation to do. “I ever deliberation marginalised communities should beryllium astatine the front, not me. And the lone crushed I accidental that is due to the fact that there’s a parallel with however I spot exemplary enactment – it’s not being retired successful the front, saying ‘Come this way’, it’s being wrong and moving together.” Still, helium ended up astatine the front, and saw betwixt 1 and 2 100 constabulary officers. “I retrieve 1 pointing astatine me, and I heard: ‘Get him’.” Before helium knew it, helium was successful handcuffs.

Polanski, who is besides seat of the London Assembly Environment Committee, is lasting for person of the Green party, promising a extremist caller “eco-populism”. When helium archetypal announced his volition to stand, the determination was portrayed successful immoderate quarters arsenic a bid to oust Carla Denyer and Adrian Ramsay, existent co-leaders, which helium rejects. The Greens elite caller co-leaders each 2 years (Ramsay and Denyer had a three-year word due to the fact that of the wide election; some are present MPs. Denyer has already announced she won’t stand, but Ramsay is moving again, successful a joint bid alongside chap caller MP Ellie Chowns). Polanski says it’s a perfectly workable exemplary to person a Green MP arsenic a parliamentary enactment person and a abstracted person of the enactment astatine large. “Someone who tin pb the enactment for the country, and beryllium accountable to the rank … I’ve reflected connected this due to the fact that the Green enactment has ne'er had a solo antheral person before, albeit a cheery and Jewish one.” He’s bashed these questions astir successful his head: the tensions betwixt individuality and people politics, which I conjecture could beryllium distilled into “could a antheral ever pb a extremist progressive party?”; the thought of the beardown person (rather than co-leaders) and however overmuch the media needs to spot 1 – and whether it’s against the Green DNA to person one. He’s fundamentally decided that, arsenic valid arsenic each the arguments and counter-arguments are, sod it, he’s going for it.

From near  … Carla Denyer, Adrian Ramsay, Polanski, and Green enactment      main  enforcement  Mary Clegg.
From near … Carla Denyer, Adrian Ramsay, Polanski and Green enactment main enforcement Mary Clegg. Photograph: Ian Forsyth/Getty Images

He emphasises however overmuch helium respects Denyer and Ramsay, who, successful 2024’s wide election, got the champion results the enactment has ever had, with astir 2 cardinal votes. Nor is his enactment bid a disapproval of the section predetermination results, adjacent though each the vigor seems to beryllium with Reform, and the Greens are inevitably casualties of that. “It’s mixed,” helium says, “it’s a truly coagulated acceptable of results. We’re the lone enactment that has gained successful the past 8 sets of section elections. In each of those years, astir without failure, the Green ballot has been described arsenic a ‘shock’, but however galore times are radical going to beryllium shocked?

“Reform did truly well, you’d beryllium a denier not to admit that, but the asymmetry successful however their occurrence has been reported, compared to ours, is truly noticeable.” It’s not that helium thinks his enactment is languishing, successful different words – conscionable that helium wants it to beryllium bolder. By eco-populism, helium means spell aft billionaires, spell aft h2o companies, spell aft corporations. He means retake patriotism. “We should emotion our country. Loving your assemblage is loving your country.” He means enactment the clime astatine the centre of everything – but ne'er hide that these volition look similar abstract conversations to radical who can’t enactment nutrient connected the table. He wants to pb a enactment that actively seeks “to amended people’s worldly conditions, close present and close now”. And the occupation with these big, hopeful promises of justness and change, is that everyone, from Boris Johnson to Nigel Farage, from Keir Starmer to Ed Davey, makes them. This fare of disappointment has each the aforesaid word-ingredients. But the quality with the Greens, Polanski says, is that they mean it, and the reply is amended storytelling. “Far excessively often, the enactment leads from a argumentation and information space. Our MPs, who are excellent, are a scientist, an engineer, a renewables adept and a erstwhile MEP. We don’t person storytellers. We person specified a almighty communicative to tell.”

Polanski’s ain communicative is that helium was calved successful Salford, his parents divorced erstwhile helium was rather young, his mum is an actor, his dada works successful a DIY shop. “I’m not the lad of a instrumentality maker, I’m the lad of a instrumentality seller,” he clarifies, precise mildly mocking the governmental cliche of trying to parade working-class credentials. His wasn’t a governmental family, and it’s taken years to get here, wherever his parents some ballot Green. Much much formative than enactment politics, successful presumption of however helium handles quality and conflict, is that helium “grew up successful a precise Zionist household, raised to truly judge that Israel was the centre of everything and indispensable beryllium defended astatine each costs. And that’s precise antithetic to my authorities now, truthful that’s been a truly hard journey, but I ever caveat this with thing is arsenic traumatic arsenic it is to unrecorded successful Palestine.

‘I’ve got a truly  large   voice’ … demonstrating extracurricular  the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero.
‘I’ve got a truly large voice’ … demonstrating extracurricular the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero. Photograph: SOPA Images Limited/Alamy

“Of each the disapproval I’ve received successful my vocation arsenic a politician,” helium continues, “the astir vicious has travel from alleged mainstream Jewish communities. I precise overmuch place arsenic Jewish, I’m precise arrogant to beryllium Jewish, I’m precise overmuch progressive successful Jewish cultures, but I’m surely not a Zionist, and that’s seen arsenic the eventual betrayal.”

He went to Stockport Grammar, a backstage school, connected a scholarship. He hated it, got kicked out, and went to a sixth signifier college. “I retrieve perfectly loving it and thriving, and abruptly going, ‘Oh, this is what diverseness feels like. This is what it feels similar erstwhile everyone’s not homogeneous.’” Then helium went to play schoolhouse successful Atlanta, Georgia, a beauteous random spot to spell to bash a Shakespeare course, which helium has nary reply to, but that it sounded fun. At this stage, helium inactive felt that “politics was a soiled happening that didn’t truly alteration anything. It wasn’t until I went to America, and saw the inequality, the racism, the homophobia, that I started to aftermath up.”

Initially, that took a beauteous anarchic form. He worked for assemblage projects with stateless radical and migrants, “helping radical to archer their stories, but besides encouraging them to articulate and empower themselves. I did that for years, and I don’t regret the work. But I besides kept feeling this heavy frustration. You tin role-play that idiosyncratic is overcoming their oppressor, but actually, if the systemic barriers are inactive there, you’re conscionable mounting idiosyncratic up for failure. People would permission a task feeling truthful pumped up and acceptable to go, and they’d spot them a twelvemonth oregon 2 aboriginal and the occupation would inactive beryllium there.”

He moved backmost from the US to London successful the mid-00s and remembers walking to enactment due to the fact that helium didn’t person the autobus fare, readying his time astir erstwhile helium could get immoderate escaped lentils from the Hare Krishnas adjacent Russell Square (he’s vegan, by the mode – but precise insistent that you don’t person to beryllium a vegan to ballot Green). “That’s however I was going to marque the rent work.” Still, helium is precise wide that “if the crap deed the fan, I would inactive person had the slope of mum and dad” and that determination is simply a quality betwixt the temporarily skint and the grindingly poor. “But I’m much funny successful the overmuch bigger spread which I spot betwixt the ace affluent and the rest. We make divisions betwixt the moving people and the mediate class, erstwhile the existent occupation is radical earning much wealth successful their slumber than you could gain successful your life. The existent occupation is the oligarchy.”

He describes immoderate of the theatre helium was making astatine this time, with the institution that aboriginal became Punchdrunk – wild, participatory productions successful which the assemblage is invited to change the people of events. In 1 performance, an assemblage subordinate rugby-tackled 1 of the actors to forestall a murder. In another, Polanski played a person stewarding the assemblage into an biology crisis, and they had to overthrow him. So yes, they were political, due to the fact that beingness is, but helium was acceptable for a much ceremonial intervention.

He started by joining the Lib Dems, and lasting arsenic a councillor successful northbound London successful 2016. “That was for 1 precise wide reason,” helium says. “Proportional practice – it’s ever been truly important to me.” He joined the Greens the pursuing year, was elected a subordinate of the London Assembly successful 2021, and lawman person of the Greens successful 2022.

Common interaction   … campaigning adjacent   Devizes, Wiltshire successful  the caller    assembly  elections.
Common interaction … campaigning adjacent Devizes, Wiltshire successful the caller assembly elections. Photograph: Sam Frost/The Guardian

He’s ever been an incredibly bully communicator, and was a regular connected shows similar Cross Questions connected LBC arsenic soon arsenic helium had a beingness successful his party. His acquisition arsenic an histrion has near Polanski with a genuinely antithetic benignant of governmental connection – helium doesn’t equivocate, his mode is rather urgent and arresting, helium ne'er drones, but nor is helium embarrassed to accidental thing precise simple, adjacent if it sounds schlocky, oregon boastful. He tells maine that the video helium launched announcing his enactment bid has been seen 1.4m times. “It’s had hundreds, possibly adjacent thousands of radical responding, and I would accidental 99% of those things are, ‘Is this what anticipation feels like?’”

Also, distinctively, determination are rules helium won’t play by. There are each kinds of unspoken norms successful existent affairs chat. It’s not considered classy to constituent retired that representatives from a rightwing thinktank are astir apt speaking for the interests of capital, alternatively than “ordinary people”, due to the fact that that would beryllium playing the antheral not the ball. A Tory mightiness accidental “multiculturalism has failed”, and they mean “I similar monoculturalism”, but you’re not allowed to telephone them racist, due to the fact that that’s advertisement hominem, adjacent though, travel on, what other are you going to telephone idiosyncratic who prefers nine to each travel from 1 culture? I retrieve being struck past year, erstwhile 3 radical were shouting astatine Polanski due to the fact that he’d utilized the “r” word. He’s a storyteller, but he’s not a children’s entertainer – sometimes the communicative is going to beryllium rather challenging.

When helium launched his enactment bid, and lone the terminally online would cognize this, a spontaneous assemblage connected X sprang into action, saying: “Isn’t helium that boob hypnotist?” The assemblage itself included an unusual conjugation of pro-Russian, anti-trans and pro-Zionist accounts, but the communicative has a atom of truth. In 2013, Polanski had a hypnotherapy practice, and a Sun journalist went arsenic a client, asked him if helium could marque her deliberation herself immoderate bigger boobs, and the remainder – well, you tin work for yourself. To beryllium honest, adjacent if he’d really acceptable himself up arsenic a breast-enlarger, I’d inactive person fixed it a walk – helium didn’t cognize he’d privation a vocation successful politics, helium was lone conscionable 30. If you’ll unrecorded connected escaped nutrient successful bid to marque immersive theatre, determination are astir apt different things you’d consider. I lone notation each this due to the fact that determination are radical who volition marque it their concern that this communicative dogs Polanski for ever; that’s the satellite we’re successful now. Ordinary radical are allowed into antiauthoritarian politics, until they are hard oregon fashionable – or, eden forbid, some – and past ways volition beryllium recovered to discredit them; it’s really a beauteous bully motion for his run that it’s begun.

I’ve heard rumours of imminent Labour defections to the Greens, MPs disaffected by Starmer connected Gaza oregon cosying up to Trump, oregon cuts to disablement allowances, oregon really, instrumentality your pick, uncovering their mode backmost to the left. Polanski is assured of 1 but won’t accidental who. That leap from reddish to greenish is simply a astonishing wrench adjacent if you’re a member, oregon conscionable a voter. “I deliberation it’s the astir evident happening successful the world,” Polanski says, “if you align with our values, articulation us. I privation to accidental to the millions of radical who person supported Labour, you’re not leaving the Labour party. The Labour enactment has near you.”

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